Questions for increasing efficiency for the Loci Method

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#1 26 September, 2016 - 11:19
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Questions for increasing efficiency for the Loci Method


I'm fairly new to the Loci Method so I'm still trying to find out what works best for me as far as organizational problems and efficiency/speed with creation. I'm a first year medical school student and I find myself having to go through heaps of information and rapid creation of new palaces. I have a few questions that I would love some insight on!

Is it more beneficial to create the palace first in your mind then write it down immediately after for recall? Or is it better to write it down as you create it, simultaneously?

What has been the best way to archive and store your palaces?

Do you write a story out describing everything on a word document? Or do you just put the loci/stimulus along with the object and meaning in an excel format?

Any response would be greatly appreciated!

28 September, 2016 - 12:20
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It's not recommended at all to define your palace on the spot.
You should prepare it in advance. One option is to simply prepare one for the day as you relax in the morning, while waking up, taking coffee, walking / driving to school maybe?
If you're already using a few palaces, just make sure you have 5-10 loci prepared in advance.

There's 2 simple ways I've heard of or used for preparing a Palace.
- Put a mnemonic at every 5 or 10 Locis, example, a Giant pole(1) at the fifth Loci, then a Duck(2) at the tenth, and so forth.
- Put an image representing every single Loci of your palace, this requires more time, of course, it might become handy if you already know you want to remember the order of everything in the palace.

With the first method, it's more practical if you just want to make sure you don't forget a Loci, either when filling it, or when looking back at it.

If you arrive at the duck and it's only your ninth image, you know you forgot one between 5 and 10.

If you have time and really want to prepare a good palace,
there's a post from Bateman about it, he's quite better at doing it and explaining it then I am. ^^'
How to create a memory palace journey from Bateman

As for keeping track of all the palaces you have,
I'd recommend reading the "1 million loci palace", from Mayarra
Or maybe the Massive Memory Palace System from Gavino

30 September, 2016 - 15:11
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Thank you so much for your response. I sincerely appreciate the help.

30 September, 2016 - 15:21
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One question that I haven't posted, but is extremely important for my type of palaces -

Often my palaces use complex images interacting with each other to convey a concept (e.g., using a memory palace to explain the different routes of sympathetic and parasympathetic nerve fibers). Sometimes, the palace gets overloaded from the amount of information I put in. Does anyone have advice for simplification and efficiency for that type of problem?

3 November, 2016 - 12:42
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Make them smaller. Break it down to a sequential chain of stations. Assign and include a symbol for every fifth station in the sequence. A tuba for the fifth, a nun for the tenth etc. What ever symbols work for you. This will help you stabilize the route. It is easier to remember a well constructed journey with a bunch of stations than it is to remember a few overbuilt stations.

If you are using the Person, Action, Object system, keep the same person throughout the journey but include a tag for him/her/it to separate the para from the other journey. An umbrella perhaps for the para. ...(umbrella in French - parapluie) Whatever works. Include the tag as part of the action. A open umbrella shielding from the rain is used to identify a feature whenever it occurs eg: a ganglion. A closed umbrella and sunshine represents a different feature or condition. This leaves your person free to engage in an action that signifies your info that is otherwise hard to remember and is buried in too much symbolism.

While learning German, which has a lot of compound words formed from as many as five or six words joined together, I just break them into separate stations. Much easier to deal with than some elaborate image that is supposed represent too much all at once. Remember it is you that wants to put some piece of information into one location because it just seems logical to do it that way. The information doesn't care if it is broken up or not. The goal is to make it easy to remember, not do it some more efficient but more difficult way.

I can construct some crazy image for ..being is doing... Or I can build three images, one for being, one for is, one for doing. The person walks from one station to the next doing some action. If I use up an entire room just getting some concept into my mind. No biggie. There are lots of stations in the world around me.

The subway, bus route, freeway, what ever would all seem to lend themselves to a nervous system. And there is certainly no end of stations available on such routes with the large number of stations available at each stop along the way. No need worry about mixing the para with the sympathetic if that is problem if you use the bus route for one and the subway for another. Limitless number of stations available on a journey completely separate from the other complete with commuter bus routes, roads or whatever to be used for interconnection between the two if necessary.

You can run through a long journey, when each station is easy to remember, much faster than you can go through a short journey with hard to remember images.

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